An attempt at photography (FetishCon 2011)

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  • #10060

    aonurag
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    I was at FetishCon last week, and got to try out my new dSLR and studio lights. Here’s a sampling of what I took. The photos are resized and cropped, but otherwise have little or no processing.

    Many thanks to Hywel for his RE “kit list” and general advice on photography.

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    #16593

    UttegeHyday
    Participant

    I hate painted toe nails. Not sexy at all, (even disgusting) for me.

    I prefer pure erotic foot fetish, when a girl has very beautiful tender feet,
    ankles, soles and her toes are even and smooth and nails are without varnish!

    #16594

    I dont know why you said a ‘attempt’ at photography Lurker – these are fantastic shots considering you are not professional (or are you??)

    I wish my skills was as good as this

    I look forward to seeing more of your work soon

    #16595

    aonurag
    Member

    No, I’m not a professional. I’ve just been reading up and trying to imitate professionals.

    For those interested in the tech-headed details: Nikon D90, kit lens (18-105), f/8, shutter 1/200, ISO 200, two studio lights (Alien Bees). Main light reflected off a big (64 inch) white umbrella/PLM camera right, pointed down ~45 degrees. Shoot-through umbrella used as a fill/background light camera left. Lights triggered by the pop-up flash set at 1/64 power.

    #16596

    scotto2589
    Member

    Yes, I agree — these are excellent photos, especially from a non pro!

    Some humble comments, also from a non-pro who probably knows considerably less than you do, so take them for what they’re worth.

    You certainly succeeded in getting the uniform lighting that says “professional”. It looks so much better than the deer-in-the-headlights effect you get with a single camera flash, or the harsh shadows and/or odd color balance you often get on sunlight or natural room lighting.

    But maybe your lighting in these pictures is a little too flat. There’s no dramatic “punch” to it, for lack of a better word. What about a key light illuminating the model’s hair and/or face? True, we are already instinctively drawn to human faces (especially pretty ones belonging to members of your sexual orientation) but a little extra emphasis from the lighting wouldn’t hurt.

    If anybody disagrees with this, please say so — that’s how I learn. And I’m just starting.

    #16597

    scotto2589
    Member

    Another thought about your lighting: it probably did a very good job of capturing the scene as it appeared to your eyes in the room’s natural lighting. If that’s what you want, then good. But if you want your pictures to be “larger than life” your lighting needs to be somewhat more “dramatic”. Does that make sense?

    #16598

    aonurag
    Member

    A little too flat? Maybe. If I were doing it again, I might put the second flash up even higher and further toward the back, to try to get it to act as more of a hair light. If I could. The “studio” was a corner of my hotel room at FetishCon, that I tried to disguise so as to not be instantly recognizable as a hotel room at FetishCon, and I was fighting a lack of space.

    Still, it was an improvement over last year. Here are some of the photos I took last year at FetishCon 2010, using my old Panasonic FZ28 point-and-shoot. I had a bank of three compact-florescents to the side as off-camera light (camera right, at roughly 45 degrees), a messed-up white balance due to my inexperienced attempt at setting a custom white balance, and added pop-up flash in photos 3 and 5.

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    And this is why I caught a case of DSLR lust.

    #16599

    scotto2589
    Member

    I see what you mean about white balance. CFLs are normally very warm (or is it cool – you know what I mean, they have a low color temperature) to match the incandescent bulbs they often replace.

    We (my wife and I) have been puzzled about how DSLRs handle white balance. If you shoot in raw mode, does changing the white balance actually change the pixels stored in the file? Or does it just go into the metadata so the display program knows how to render it? I’ve heard that it’s much easier to correct all sorts of exposure and color balance mistakes if you shoot raw, primarily because they can store the full number of bits per pixel that most modern cameras have rather than being limited to only the 8 bits/pixel of JPEG.

    #16600

    scotto2589
    Member

    I notice that in most of your pictures from this year we can still see “catch lights” (or whatever you call them), those small but very appealing white reflections in the model’s eyes. They seem to be centered, implying they’re reflections of your on-camera flash. Was that the case even though you ran it at only 1/64 power just to trigger the other strobes? Was your camera flash pointed directly at the models?

    #16601

    aonurag
    Member

    No, the main catchlight is from my big strobe, which was not as far to the side as I’d have preferred, due to the lack of space.

    #16602

    HI Lurker (and anonanonanon7),

    Welcome to the obsessive-about-photographic-quality bondage photographers’ club 😉

    I think you can see a big step forward going from the compact to the dSLR and improved lighting. The main thing you now have is control, rather than being stuck with the best the camera could do on auto 🙂 🙂 🙂

    I’d play around with the lighting ratios a bit- maybe try using the shoot through umbrella as they key light instead of the fill, and turn the fill down a bit. Shoot-throughs are usually more light efficient than bounce umbrellas and usually also produce a slightly harder light with more defined shadows, which is usually what one wants for the key- it should be the brighter of the two lights and also the harder.

    Some sort of hairlight or backlight would help too of course. Hotel rooms can be a pig to light because it can be hard to get any back light in. I sometimes put a small light on a boom or a clamp stand somewhere in the background- depending how fast you shoot, even a small regular flashgun on manual can produce a nice hairlight as long as it can trigger from the main system somehow. If and when funds permit, buying a third light that is small enough and agile enough to be used as a hairlight would complement your existing lighting rig nicely.

    To answer the question about how dSLRs handle white balance, and the benefits of shooting raw. Raw files store the unprocessed data from the imaging chip (more or less- most camera’s processors do a bit of work on the data, compressing it losslessly like a ZIP file for example). As you say, raw files store the full dynamic range of the image (not the 8 bits of JPEG) and also allow you to put off several choices until post-processing. Most notable of those choices is the choice of what white balance and tone curves to apply.

    Setting white balance on the camera makes no difference to what the per-pixel data in the raw file are. It just sets a data word in the file suggesting to the raw processing software that maybe it should start off by treating this image as if it were daylight balanced (or whatever). So it is just setting a switch in the metadata, which will enable you to change your mind in post processing, either because you cocked up, or because you want to do something else for dramatic effect.

    Raw also allows you to get the benefit of all that extra dynamic range and decide exactly which bits of the range you are interested in. You can then map the linear response of the sensor into a file suitable for viewing by humans on computer monitors by an appropriate choice of tone curves. If you shoot JPEG, you usually control that through a choice of scene file (“natural” look, “saturated” look, etc.) But that information gets “baked in” to a JPEG, along with the white balance choice, and with only 8 bits of range, if you get the choice wrong, you’ve probably thrown away any chance to change your mind, see a bit more detail in the shadows, etc..

    I would recommend anyone serious about their photography to shoot raw these days. In the early days of the site we shot in JPEG, which seemed to make sense at the time as storage space and card space was relatively expensive and the dynamic range benefits were not so marked for older cameras anyway, as they didn’t have such great sensors. But with Terabytes of data storage available for less than a hundred pounds, 16 GB cards routinely available, and the much better sensors in modern cameras it makes no sense to throw away information until the very last step in the processing chain.

    One of the things I’m really hoping for over the next few years is the continuation of this trend to video capture. Our new video camera is lovely, but it is kinda crippled by being limited to shooting 8 bits with baked-in white balance and scene files- essentially the equivalent of shooting JPEGs, and JPEGs with pretty low quality settings at that. RED have produced a moderately affordable (for “buying a swanky new car” values of affordable!) system which records to something a bit like RAW for video, and I’m really hoping that they and their competitors keep developing this sort of technology until it is available in a more sensible package. (Or that the recession finally ends, people start spending again, and we can maybe look at hiring an actual digital cinema system at least for major video shoots… 🙂 🙂 🙂 )

    Cheers, Hywel

    #16603

    aonurag
    Member

    The chief control lacking on my FZ28 is control over off-camera flash: No hotshoe, and not even any way to turn off the preflash. Other than that, the fact that my D90 has a bigger and better sensor – not so much in terms of megapixels, but physically bigger – seems more important than the increased degree of manual control. (That, and my having more experience in using the manual controls. The white balance problems with the 2010 pics are there because I did set the FZ28 on manual white balance and then mucked it up.)

    For the 2011 pics, I was going for a “really really soft light” look, thus the big (64 inch) umbrella/parabolic light modifier as the key light. Maybe I did overdo it. I considered not using a fill light at all (or using a reflector to give just a bit of fill), and as I said, I think I would have done better to try to use the second strobe more as a hairlight, way up high and further toward the back.

    #16604

    scotto2589
    Member

    Thanks to Hywel and Lurker both for their informative comments!

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