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    aonurag
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    Leaving aside matters of personal taste (I really don’t like to see reverse-prayer ties) this set raised an alarm with me because of the strand of rope that ran directly across the front of Ariel’s throat. I’ve been told, and have always thought, that that was a big DON’T DO THAT!

    So how did this set end up doing that?

    #16964

    As a rope novice, I assume a rope across the throat is a complete “no no” and even more so if (as I imagine in “reverse prayer”) the position lends itself to the model pulling down on that rope. However, I think I know enough about RE’s safety-consciousness and WykD Dave’s skill to believe there must be a different answer. Please tell us the secret.

    More generally, I actually loved this set – not least because it manages to be so different from the previous Lexicon “Reverse Prayer Karada” (correct me if I’m wrong but not currently up on the site). That was a different mood, starting with self-bondage and finishing off with nipple clamps. On this set, Ariel’s smile alone must lift it 2 points on the scoring scheme. 😀

    Andrew

    #16965

    Well, the short answer is that yes in principle this tie could be unsafe because of that rope around the base of Ariel’s throat and we should add a comment to that effect on the lexicon.

    So why did we do it?

    In practice, because of the way the tension on rope pulls there’s not really very much chance of that potential for harm being realised, even if Ariel were to faint or fall.

    It is all one rope and if she starts to pull one way, the tension on the continuation of the rope the other side quickly limits the extent of the motion. Even if she fainted and fell over, her arms are not going to have much leverage to pull the ropes because of the position she’s in (unlike say a strappado, which always makes me nervous- dislocated shoulders aren’t fun).

    Critically, there’s nothing else attached to that rope – she’s not anchored to a wall or a chair – and the rope is hemp, so it won’t slip its knots the way nylon is prone to doing.

    Furthermore, she was in it for a short space of time (the first shot was taken at 16:10 and the last at 16:15) with two people on set, both armed with safety scissors/safety cutters should she have developed problems. Ariel herself is an experienced bondage model who would have alerted us if the rope felt at all like it might have started migrating upwards.

    Is it a tie you should attempt on your first bondage date? No, and we should update the wording of the lexicon accordingly.

    Is it a tie that presented an unacceptable danger to Ariel on the day? The best judgement of the three experienced BDSM practitioners was that it did not. Nonetheless, the presence of that rope does present a specific risk of which anyone attempting to replicate the tie ought to be made aware.

    We should devise a variation which reduces that risk still further by replacing the front rope with ropes that pass under the armpits, say.

    Cheers, Hywel.

    #16966

    Thank you for the explanation, Hywel. I knew there was an answer. 🙂

    In the light of current events (raised elsewhere on the Forum), there may be a benefit in thinking about a little more explanation of any sets that might be capable of misinterpretation. For the moment, it may be advantageous to go a bit OTT on emphasising the “safe, sane, adult, and consensual” – especially for the benefit of the more nervous member or potential member.

    Andrew

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