Hywel
I think she needs to undergo a test to prove that her behaviour has improved before re-instatement. But the question is what kind of test and should Sammie and Kate be involved her test. Although I think Sammie has a small part in Ariel acting the way she did goating her on. But that was just a very small part. Ariel being cockey like she is she never though about what could happen. I think something in public should be done again to restore her to RE slavegirl.

Mark
:devilishangel

Oh dear Ariel. I’ve just watched the video, and there’s no doubt in my mind you need to undergo a test(s) to prove yourself worthy to regain the elite title of “Restrained Elegance slavegirl in trainingâ€

Just reading the poll options, I am rather amused by “Ariel should be allowed to call herself Queen Ariel at all times”. Remembering some of the earlier video’s of her time in France, she is already doing so! Even while proclaiming her role of slave she is also proclaiming her role of Queen.

Perhaps there should be an extra poll option, Ariel is punished every time she calls herself Queen Ariel in the presence of either Hywel or Kate?

After all, someone has to stand up for and defend these two long suffering innocents!!! *innocent expression number 37*

*wonders how long I can get away with claiming Kate and Hywel are innocent*

Hywel’s note, to me it makes sense he has posted this. I suspect only a tiny handful of site members ever pass through this forum, or read it.

A lot of people are very ignorant about bondage, BDSM, and what goes with it. Against this background of ignorance and misinformation restating the “obvious” is often a good thing.

Being interested in bondage really is NOT the same thing as being informed on safe words, respect, safety, or anything else.

Having watched the movie I actually found it less unsettling than some of the earlier parts, BUT that is due to having chatted with Ariel on the chat room, and having seen her on the forum. I have a better concept of her as a person as a result, more context for the video. Plus I have Hywel’s reassuring words in my head.

One question does occur to me though. Does anyone have any form of definition of the term “Restrained Elegance slave girl”?

That sounds silly at first, but think about it. What is actually meant by this?

In the video look at 3:15 to 3:20, it seems that to Ariel the terms Queen and official slave girl are interchangeable. Hence I am wondering at the definition of slave girl. I suspect that, as always, if you ask 6 people you will get 6 different definitions.

So perhaps an “official” definition would help?

tancrede a collar in public, it really depends on what is meant by this. Stand in the middle of a deserted beach in winter, with no one around, wearing a collar under your coat… I hope you would agree this is both public and safe.

In isolation a collar is simply a piece of jewellery. I see your point, and safety, location, and actions all need to be carefully considered. At the same time I somehow feel that a collar, in isolation, should not be a problem. Perhaps I am showing my own ignorance?

Is a scarf around your neck a problem? What about a choker? A neckless? I wear two loose chains around my neck, they hold jewellery. I have been wearing them in public, sometimes on show, for years. I am simply asking where is the line drawn?

A collar with a lead I would say was a very different issue, due to the lead.

Thanks very much for the interesting post and associated question.

I have just watched the video, and frankly it did not seem very clear to me that Ariel had any conception of why she was demoted from RE resident slave girl in training to pet.

Everything she said was self-centred (e.g. I don’t like this, I liked being “Queen” etc). Self-centred to the point of narcissism.

If the whole experience of being demoted to pet is to be effective at all in informing her ongoing training, does not she need to acknowledge her appalling behaviour, and spend some time reflecting upon this?

One caveat, however: in a sense, her punishment is unhelpful because she is forbidden to speak as part of it. In my view, she needs to first reflect, then second confess up to her appalling behaviour in great detail. Then (and only then) should she receive a punishment for it. I have a specific punishment in mind, but don’t want to get distracted on what that should be until we get past stages one and two…

What do you think?

I vote for a puplic collar test – cant be that dangerous as tancrede thinks – worst scenario is imbarresing – not dangerous.
Dident have to be a place whith thousends of people – just the potential of a few people thinking what is she wearing.
The mobile phone remote control will be great – for example

Remove your scarf
put up your hair
play the ring while walking
ask guy for directions (to nearest locksmith??)
But the other girls could be solidaric – Kate – and wear other nice things from re toy collection

Could make great pics – to me more importent than Ariels status in the game – on the other hand – the resident slave girl collar IS out of this world.

Cheers to all
Alex

I think Ariel should be reinstated as RE resident slavegirl

but maybe somekind of test… wearing the collar in public sounds like a good and fun (at least for us whos watching) idea :spin

:love
Pling

@hywel wrote:

Anyway, I’ve got to agree with Hasler- I don’t really see that wearing a collar in public counts as insane or unsafe.

I have spoken with women that never took their collar of for several months. They seemed quite healthy to me.

The only real dangerous place I can think of is a magnetic resonance tomograph – fortunately, you don’t meet those on a daily basis! :tongue

Kind off a conclusion might be that the dear Ariel has to mentally prepare for another public apperence whith a sligt touch of steel around her lovely neck….
And by the way Pling – you could join her…

Sincere regards from denmark

well – then we got a plan i belive/hope
🙂

Ariel has shown real progress since her first training, but she’s still got a bit to go before she’s the finished article. I thought the bedtime video was the best – I thought she really demonstrated that she’d learned a few things. Keep up the good work.

Assuming Ariel does eventually return to the exalted position of Official Slave Girl, I have one or two modest suggestions for her.

First, she should request permission to speak before actually speaking. I’d suggest something like the Begging 45 position, which she would hold until told no or given permission to speak. Speaking of which, I’ve noticed that when she begs she frequently covers her breasts with her hands. Bad Ariel!

Secondly, when she actually is allowed to speak again, I’d like to see a new word added to her vocabulary. That word is ‘master’, and everything she says should end with that word.

I think these two simple suggestions, if implemented, might prevent Ariel from developing another attitude problem should she regain her place.

I am not sure that showing up in public with a collar on is really a test. As a slavegirl isn’t considered normal to have the collar on in public or not?

Oh good lord……………. Just had the shoot of absolute HELL, which I submitted to in the hope that I’ll get my collar back. This is what I would like to say.

Sammie B, you are a bad lady and cannot BELIEVE you helped Hywel come up with such very cruel ideas for me
:angry:

Hywel, will honestly do everything you say from now on. And be very polite to all the models. Honestly. Sir.

Brrrrr.