October 4, 2016 at 10:29 #27086
Does anyone else think that the Kim Kardashian robbery sounds like a storyline that would accompany a RE photoset or video?October 5, 2016 at 13:34 #27088
absolutely!! and since some people are questioning the truth of this, i think Kim should personally ask Hywel to re-create just what happened!October 8, 2016 at 14:40 #27089
I’m afraid this crosses my line for fantasy vs. reality, sorry. Non-consensual is only OK in fantasy and I’m sure this was terrifying and horrible for the people involved. I’m glad no-one was seriously hurt. Whether or not the facts of the case are as reported, it’s not something we’ll be doing.
October 11, 2016 at 17:43 #27091
- This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by Hywel.
I thought I already posted on this, but yeah. If anything, my line for fantasy vs reality is even further back than Hywel’s.
That’s why I don’t like kinky fiction (in any medium) about celebrities or politicians, no matter what my opinion of the celebrity or politician being “sent up” might be. Not even if it’s a “No Celebrities Were Harmed” version.October 14, 2016 at 11:01 #27094
My comment was only intended as an observation. Not a condoning of what happened. Now I hear she’s going into therapy because of the robbery and I feel like an a-hole for bringing it up.October 14, 2016 at 12:07 #27095
Don’t feel bad! It is undoubtedly true that what happened reads very like the storylines we shoot here on RE. It would be disingenuous to pretend there is no link between these things happening in reality and the storylines we write- clearly, the two are connected.
One of the things Ariel and I have in common is that when we were growing up, we didn’t have access to any sort of BDSM erotica or even know that such things existed. We therefore fixated on scenes in mainstream media- including real-life events on the news.
The very best thing about the internet for me is that it has made it unnecessary to do that. We can now access romantic fiction (whether written or visual or auditory) which lets us enjoy and even act out these fantasies without having to have the confusing and conflicting guilt about finding a story that we know intellectually was horrible for the real people involved kinda hot.
It’s that that lies behind my determination to keep RE going even if the UK censors try to shut us down (they’re on to the next phase now BTW: mandatory age verification. Which sounds fine until you realise that that means handing over your identity every time you want to even browse something 18-rated. A government mandated list of all the porn everyone in the country has ever watched? What could possibly go wrong?)
I don’t want to go back to the dark days of having to find stories like this hot, because there’s no longer a source of cheery, romantic bondage fantasies online.
It’s an important point, I think, so don’t feel bad about having pointed it out!
Cheers, HywelOctober 14, 2016 at 12:12 #27096
P.S. Sablesword I am with you on the “celebrity/politician” fiction. I’m not a big fan even of slash fic with someone else’s famous character put into a sexual story. I know Kirk-Spocking has a long an honourable history, but some years ago I came to the conclusion that I wasn’t happy doing this to other authors’ creations.
Which is why I stopped doing things like the Star Trek and Tomb Raider inspired sets we used to shoot in the early days. Pragmatically, I don’t want to get sued, but more importantly I don’t think it is fair to the original authors/actors/etc. to presume to cast their creations in stories which might horrify them.
So I’m trying to stick to original characters and original storylines (allowing for a dash of inspiration/Picasso-style creative stealing now and then).
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