I guess from the dom’s perspective, it is just one more thing to take away your control over your own body- in some ways, the ultimate way to take away your control.

One fantasy is having a damsel in distress, helpless in your wicked clutches (mw-a-ha-ha!) and turning the chaste and pure maiden into a helpless, wanton sexual plaything. What better way to do that than by taking away her choice over whether or not she will become aroused? By making her own body and her own sexuality betray her, because much though she screams and kicks and bites and rationally fights off her devilish cruel attacker… her body responds despite herself and she finds herself wracked by the fires of passion in this evil man’s hands. So I’d say that’s not quite the same as the girl “enjoying” herself at the hands of her evil captor- more being unable to help herself.

Personally, I don’t like the use of vibrators when they look tacky or out of keeping with the setting, or if it doesn’t make sense in the storyline. Since most dildos and vibrators are exactly what they look like- a cheap, badly-made lump of plastic with a small electric motor with an off-centre weight on a spindle- it is kinda hard to get it to look anything other than cheap and tawdry unless you are very careful indeed.

I’m absolutely sure that it can be done, and it can be done well in a very erotic, classy and tasteful way… Jasmine has definitely done some scenes for her site which are sizzling, upbeat, classy and sexy as hell and in which the presence of the vibrator is absolutely in keeping with everything else. It is a direction I’d like to explore (with all the usual caveats- don’t worry, this site isn’t going to turn into Insex- I just want to try doing this RIGHT).

But I’d also really like to know what the general feeling is. Orgasms or no orgasms? Enjoying it, or not being able to help herself?

Hywel.

I can agree with Hywel, it’s just another way for the captor to demonstrate his power. The woman not being able to control the vibrator, or stop her feelings. I think that if performed right this can make fore some really sexy sets!

Of cause it’s essential that the control of the machine is out of reach for the victim. The sets where a woman is bound, with her hands reaching in front of her and she is touching her self with a vibrating dildo really isn’t for me. Simply because the woman is in control.

Also, lets make it clear that a vibrator do not have to be a vibrating dildo. Is can be something like used in this set (don’t know what it’s called)
http://www.damseldiary.com/free/ps/celestia/1/119
It can also have a less plastic look:
http://img.damseldiary.com/ps/rhiannon/10.jpg
Personally I like that type of vibrator, and perhaps that’s easier to make look good in the shot than a dildo? Also it´s no problem using that type without removing al clothes (I think that sexy clothes are more sexy then nudity, but that’s a completely different discussion).

Also I like to mention the use of music controlled electro sex equipment. I remember a movie on some site where the girl was strapped down on a table, with electrodes hooked up to her “sensitive parts”. They then started playing music, slowly increasing in intensity. They also had a keyboard to make some extra tones whenever they felt like it. Via the pumping music the damsel was driven to the point of orgasm, and then slowing down music again. The music also changed in frequency, producing more of a painful experience, and then back to “wonderful” again. And whenever they felt like it they stroke the keyboard on a high tone, producing quite a reaction from the girl! :heybabe

Because this was music controlled, and the viewer could hear the music, it was very easy to imagine what the girl felt. If any girl here at RE is brave enough to try a set like that, I for sure would appreciate it! :spin

TBH I don’t know about all this. I think you have managed 4 years of so with your website without vibrators etc. Why change now?? It is a big step and gets away from the elegance part in my view. even if you only do it sometimes it makes your site like the rest of the sites. I guess you may get more members if that is what you want but i am not sure like i say.

That’s not really true- I have done the occasional set like this in the past. It is just that I didn’t quite feel that I’d cracked having the more overtly sexual element in there whilst retaining the elegance. I haven’t tried in a while- the “forbidden orgasm” video with Rose Wood that’s just been in the archive was probably the most recent attempt. I was quite happy with that but wish I’d lit it very differently.

That’s what I would be after- a way to bring that more overtly sexual element into the occasional set or video whilst keeping it all feeling very elegant and sophisticated. Again I emphasise in the OCCASIONAL set!! NOT EVERY SET. Probably not every month, possibly only once or twice as an experiment, or in the same way that the occasional set has stronger punishment content like nipple clamps or hot wax or the way that we tried the long-term bondage and the videos of Chanta tying up Ariel behind the scenes. If I can crack it, it is one more ingredient which I can throw into the mix and one more possible element in the storylines I can shoot.

Let me say it again- there’s no way Restrained Elegance will turn into a carbon copy clone of all the sites which tie girls up and turn the magic wand vibrator on them every set. It is just that I have ideas and storylines in my notebook (and images in my head) where an on-screen orgasm would be the logical and satisfying conculsion to a storyline.

I’m not doing it to chase members. Obviously more members is nice, I’d be a fool to turn them away, but if I/we do decide to try this direction again it will be to see if we can work that in whilst remaining completely and totally true to the Restrained Elegance “ideal” and stay different from all those other sites.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Cheers, Hywel.

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Hi all

I guess I’m coming to the party late again but for what my opinion is worth I’d say it’d be another interesting direction for the site to persue, within reason. I can only agree with much of what has already been said so ‘ll be brief. Such material would have do be done very carefully and in moderation to maintain the “elegance” the site is renown for. As such I really wouldn’t really want to see a model masturbate but it has to be said that for a Dom to gradually tease a sub to orgasam ON THE DOMS TERMS is the pinnacle of power exchange.

Cheers

M

P.S.
AH HAAA! Nooooobody expects the spanish inquisition ..!!..

Hi all;

I think my views have been covered in the recent Restrained Elegance Nights – Too Harsh? thread in this forum. Whilst my gut reaction would always err on the side of caution – am really not liking some of these US sites which are a little to graphic perhaps even intrusive – I have enjoyed many of the ‘harsher’ sets you have done (a lot of the Rose Wood material for example). So I guess as long as it’s done in an “RE-style” and not all sets feature the model being pleasured by her captor then go with it!

Ariel, in response to your initial post. We at RE are loving the sets you do – just the way they are. If you want to add vibrators to those sets then go ahead though dont feel this is something you need to do (sorry Chanta).

CD

Hi Ariel

hehe I can relate to you rushing to your computer upon your return, I’m not really a member anymore and so only have access about once a month when a certain gentleman brings his laptop. I’ve been dying to catch up and giddy with excitement all afternoon! :blush (although I’d be embarrassed to mention what I had to do to earn the priviledge..) Don’t get me wrong, I would be a member, have been and will be again – I just lack my own computer, and phoneline and home to put them in, apart from that tho I’m sorted!

Easy question to answer. Crotchropes – sexy, vibrators – horrid.

Well, from a Restrainedelegance perspective anyway. As much as I love what Chanta brings to the site I’d hate to see hardcore strapon action etc (hywelsbitches.com hehe), it just seems to be diametrically opposed to what I look forward to seeing here. Saying that, I’m not entirely comfortable with the increase in full nudity on the site either but I’m sure I’m a tiny minority, a little left to the imagination goes a long way. Some girls just seem to be made for “porn” but I’d be a little sad to see you go too far down that particular road Ariel, for what my opinion’s worth. Here’s a wierd thing though, I don’t see crotchropes in the same light, infact I’d love to see more on the site and maybe underneath me too :spin (did I just say that..)

I could be wrong, history bears testament to Hywel’s governance and its perhaps very nieve of me to assume he of all people couldn’t find some way of forcing orgasms upon slavegirls with his usual style. I just can’t think of it. (Hywel, apologies for talking about you in the third person on your own forum..)

Love to all

Jojo
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Well hi, I just joined Restrained Elegance today, and spent a couple of hours just watching the videos (which were btw. all really delightful so far)…

My opinion is: there are two reasons why you would tie up someone. Either to caress him/her, or to punish him/her. Those are two completely different scenarios. The idea of torturing someone by forced / denied orgasms makes me uncomfortable. I think, orgasms shouldn’t be associated by something negative. They are such a great thing, why ruin them with bad associations? However, this is just me…

So, it depends totally on the scene what is appropiate. A few weeks ago, I saw a video clip of an asian girl, who put a tight rope harness on herself, tied the crotch rope to the bed post, and pleasured herself by riding on this crotch rope. This was absolutely sexy, because you could see and feel with her enjoyment.

I think, within the right scene, a vibrator could totally fit in. So either in a self bondage scenario, or as a foreplay, etc.
It has to be playful and sensual to work, so it won’t work for every set and may be quite mood dependent, but I think you should give it a try.

Btw, i really liked the “behind the scenes” clips with Ariel and Chanta! 🙂 Sometimes all you need to have fun, is to watch people who have fun. And apparently this was the case with these shootings.

@arielanderssen wrote:

Thanks specially for posting, Shiver, it always makes me super-happy to see someone on the forum who I haven’t seen before. Welcome, and do let me know if you have any more ideas, that’s a super one!

Thanks for the welcome Ariel 🙂

Glad you like my tightrope idea (although I admit it’s not actually mine!) I hope you and Hywel consider something along those lines sometime.

Hi Mark,

The reason Jim Weathers (and so many others) use that big vibrator is because it works!!! Usually without fail, if a girl can’t cum for real with that then chances are she’s dead between the legs!!! Nothing worse than girls “faking” it and the hitachi magic wand makes everything very real which is what I like to see…a girl truely cumming uncrontrollably and begging for it to stop…mmmmm!

LOL I think Chanta’s way ahead of you, she said she’d covered hers in different colour tapes so they didn’t look quite so naff.

I went for a different solution and hid it from view completely but you’ll have to wait for me to process the photos and video to see what I mean. Trust me though there is no sign of the dreaded kitchen mixer! It was a big concern for me as I think they look totally rubbish.

My experience with these things isn’t quite as great as Chanta’s (!!! 😀 ) but I can assure you that when used properly the orgasms are 100% real… and that’s exactly why everyone does use the Hitachi magic wand in the first place. Hitachi of course like to pretend that it is indeed a back massager… yeh, right :lick

Cheers, Hywel.