Thought you would 😀

If I hadn’t already followed your maxim and gone DsIII when the first came out, I would have been opening the boxes yesteday too!

Look forward to some field experience updates as you get used to it, got to make my mind up by 31st August (Year End). Particularly like your views on shooting rates, I’m very partial to bursts of two/three shots.

Frank

@hasler wrote:

This discussion is mostly around the last ½% of pic quality – and happening on the site whith the world leading pic quality.

Think that is the point, to maintain it’s position the market leader in quality the site has to keep testing the water and experimenting, not only for now but for the back catalogue in two or three years time, I’m minded of the early videos not existing as AVI and thus being able to be recoded. Think Hywel as made the case for MF on the image qualities front but I think I’d wait for the 39+Mp backs to come down in price and go for a 5DII and some more props in the meantime.

@lurker wrote:

@frank wrote:

Cake making machine… where can I buy one…

Is that a UKism for “bread machine”?
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/items/zojirushi-home-bakery-supreme-bread-machine

I think it’s wishful thinking on Ms A’s part but don’t see why you couldn’t make say a sponge cake making machine. As for a big red clowns nose, I’m just editing some pics of her eating a punnet of strawberries, there’s one that would Photoshop nicely, no bondage gear though.

Hi Hywel,

Are the Bondage Safety Notes available to non-members …

I was shooting a model last week, Air Hostess Glamour for a Lad’s mag, anyway I remarked this would make a great bondage scenario (genuine uniforms available for loan 😀 ). To my surprise the model said Oh I tried that last week! so we had a bit more of a chat about it and to cut a long story short I was a little concerned that although she was working with an OK ‘tog she herself did really know enough for her own safety…

I’ve mentioned to Ariel in the past that I think it would be a good idea for the responsible sites to offer some form of guidence to models, FAQ or half day tutorial or something… wonder what you and the others think .. this model didn’t tell the ‘tog she was going numb and was starting to get pins and needles … because she didn’t know she should! Ok the ‘tog shoudl have briefed her …

Frank

Peter

Couldn’t have happened to two nicer people, so happy that you finally found each other, cherish every moment.

:cheers

Frank

Hywel/Ariel,

Think they are truly top class, with or without the bondage element, the red, the green, the legs …….I’ve added my vote to improve the stats.

Frank

BTW, isn’t a Happy Birthday due about now Ariel?
If so have a good one :cheers The trick is to have one candle on the cake, for environmental reasons, I assume it’s a a safe bet you have a cake.

Well, if Ariel has to undertake some tests, this should count as one of them, with a resounding PASSED.

Frank

Unless of course she was popping her tiara (or should I say Sammie’s tiara) on everytime the camera’s back was turned. 🙂

The highlight has to be the tutorial shoot, I think that just counts?
I have a montage of close ups of THOSE SOCKS as the screen saver on my PC at work…. well we all know what Hywel then used them for…. makes me smile everytime it pops ups and nobody knows….. 🙂

You were a great sport Ariel, heres to a super 2008 for you :cheers …. and everbody else :cheers :cheers

Frank

BTW in this age of acronyms, PET: Princess Engaged in Training, didn’t Hywel mention that.

Indeed, Dr Phillips needs to expand the statistical base of his research and submit the findings for peer review as soon as possible.

Ps; You are aware that babies puke, poo and cry aren’t you?

and are a constant source of wonder, joy and pride, will love you forever and ultimately give you grandchildren (who give you all of this list without any of the first :).

Have no idea about the techy side of photography – just love Bondage.

That being the case I ‘d say you did pretty d**n well.

Ariel and I enjoyed the shoot and I guess that’s the important thing.

Precisely 🙂

Read Ariel’s and Hywel’s comments with some interest, I’d like to give another perspective to the general debate. Not sure this is the right thread so if you want to move it Hywel feel free, and Ariel please don’t get bored I’d like to know ahat you think.

Firstly in the case we’re talking about let’s make it clear my view is, if Rosaleen Young wishes to ask that’s her prerogative, although as feline says a little bit like closing the stable door after the horse has trampled all over the internet. If photographers wish to respect her desire it’s up to them. Although Ariel it must be said Kate Moss did come up with a rather radical albeit temporary solution to the problem, although in her case we must remember there is a large element of product endorsement involved as well as modeling.

On to my main point, I’ve commissioned many photographs over the years, but in recent years I’ve given up due to the unrealistic demand of photographers particularly over copyright, no problem I take them myself, especially as I find myself a very reasonable person to negotiate with. I’ll describe the problem; hopefully you’ll see how complex the jigsaw that Hywel & Ariel have described can get.

Suppose I want a product shot of a tractor for a brochure, so I provide the tractor, the location, the driver etc. and commission the photographer; to my it is not unreasonable to require the copyright in the image. Well it may surprise many of you to know that it is not uncommon for a photographer to refuse, in some cases they will only license the photograph to the customer for a limited time. What I find amusing is that these are the self same photographers who’ll happily shove a model release under a models nose and give an extra hours fee for signing away everything…. Mmmm.

Why does the photographer want to keep the copyright, typically the answer is so that at some time in the future they can a) use it in their portfolio, b) exhibit it, c) enter it in a competition, no problems so far, quite happy to allow that, d) put it in library, sorry, excuse me you want to be able to sell an image of my product, that I paid for, to anybody who comes along …… and what do I get out of it (thinks Hollywood writers strike!) To use Ariel’s analogy it’s a bit like selling you a house then wanting to rent out the spare room. There is however a serious side to this problem suppose some years later the laws on tractor use have changed and my driver is now doing something illegal (nor wearing a seatbelt) or maybe what is acceptable has changed, the driver is a topless model.

I reminded of the case of Bill Cash (the Tory MP) whose PA when a student did some modeling, up to implied nude (as it’s called), very jolly, the tabloids loved it, especially as one of the pictures, in a bikini, appeared on the cover (but not inside) a top-shelf magazine, had she foreseen that? I note that some Model Releases now give the model a box for restrictions as to use and that Alamy say “(except for pornographic, defamatory, libelous or otherwise unlawful)â€

TFM,

The idea for the shot in the corner was good and but whole thing about digital is that you can experiment, 1) didn’t come off, 2) Hywel would put on his wall

Regarding the slight cropping issue, do you wear glasses? I have to admit to having this problem, I’m trying to train myself to pull back/zoom out.

However I rather like where you’re going with 3-6, a plain or less natural background might have been an idea. As for the last three, I rather like the last one, I’d have cropped it harder and lost Ariel’s fingertips with Photoshop.

Regards

Frank

Perhaps a bit harsh Tancrede, I’d like to know what Tighter was trying to achieve, that’s quite a nice infinity cove behind Ariel (not a roll of cheap background paper) so there’s probably a story behind the lighting.

I’m equally bemused by nice cove and the rough concrete floor, although I don’t see this as a complete excuse for a sheepskin lined cage!

That said, overall a bit hardcore for my taste, I can live with the nipple clamps, but the clothes pegs :stiffdrink The cage shots on the other hand are quite inventive, yes Feline no 4 is the one, with a simpler gag and a bit more Photshop it would have been an easy 9.9.

As for the last (and first), you’ve seen my shots of Miss A, so you know my feelings about her legs, and the rosy b** … heaven.

Frank

Kate, might want to make it (or a tease for it) available via the “guest” route ….